Swim Deep and Bill Ryder-Jones tell us about new single ‘Very Heaven’ and their “brave” new album

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Swim Deep have shared ‘Very Heaven’, the latest single from their upcoming fourth album, ‘There’s A Big Star Outside’. Check it out below along with our interview with the band’s frontman Austin Williams, and Bill Ryder-Jones, who produced the album.Arriving next month, ‘There’s A Big Star Outside’ has been previewed by the singles ‘How Many Love Songs Have Died In Vegas?’ and ‘First Song’.

Now, ‘Very Heaven’ – a warm, rich portrait of a relationship that paints both the ups and downs in a tender glow – captures the collaborative spirit between the band and Ryder-Jones.“It was a song that Bill wrote,” Williams explained. “That was a real moment.

The whole two songs when we were doing that song were just amazing for me and my favourite time in [Brussels studio] ICP. We hid ourselves away and wrote the lyrics.”Ryder Jones added: “‘Very Heaven’ was a song that I was working on for my last record [the acclaimed ‘Iechyd Da’] and I couldn’t finish it.

I couldn’t make it work, but I knew it was good. It needed someone else – and that’s very hard for me to admit.”The singer-songwriter and producer first played Williams a voice note of the song as they were beginning to work together during sessions in the Wirral. “I just thought, ‘This is so good, this is right up my street, this is so perfect’,” Williams recalled. “I just didn’t stop thinking about it.”The single takes its title from a William Wordsworth quote while, lyrically, it taps into Williams’ thoughts and feelings at a time when he was about to become a father. “Bill was trying to get me to channel those feelings, and it was very present,” he said. “A lot of the themes on the album are looking back at my childhood and understanding why I am the way I am and why my.