but you can watch it here, in case you want to know whether it really happened.Penn continued to describe his personal experience getting to know Zelenskyy before and during the invasion, explaining that in Zelenskyy he also saw a reflection of the courage of average Ukrainians. “He’s the face of something that you see in all the Ukrainians we saw and talked to, whether they were in uniform, out of uniform, schoolteachers, even children, this extraordinary courage that’s come up.
And he was — it was in his eyes,” Penn said. “And it is clear to me that the Ukrainians will win this. The question is, at what cost?”The conversation continued along the previous lines for a while longer.
Hannity and Penn both agreed that it is important to avoid starting a nuclear war in Ukraine. Though Penn said he worries that “if only one bully is going to be able to use those weapons as a threat, we have got to rethink what we’re doing.Hannity and Penn disagreed of course in their assessments of President Joe Biden’s handling of the war.
Penn avoided getting bogged down in those weeds and returned to his point about Ukraine. “Here is what we have to know, is that the Ukrainians are fighting to win … And they’re fighting to win for the very thing that we’re able to do right now, to be free, to dream,” Penn said.Hannity for his part said he admired Zelenskyy’s personal courage. “I will tell you what impresses me about him — you have met him, I haven’t — is that there have been many leaders in the world in similar situations as he’s been in, offered asylum — I believe he was even offered asylum here, I have been told by my sources.
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