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Grayson and Philippa Perry: 'Fantasy isn't all unicorns and rainbows – it's a refuge'

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Grayson’s Art Club, and they’re sitting side by side in what must currently be the world’s best-known artist’s studio. More than a million people a week tuned into the Channel 4 series last year, and I’ve joined the couple on Zoom to talk about the imminent second season.

Grayson has positioned himself half off screen and Philippa’s hand keeps popping into view, trailing a red thread. What are you doing, I ask? “Let’s say I’m doing the mending,” she replies, briskly.

After a little more pushing, Philippa admits that she’s actually stitching a tapestry for the series. Give us a glimpse, I beg her.

Absolutely not, she insists. Grayson gets her off the hook by flourishing a DayGlo pink Post-it note covered with squiggles.

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