Inskeep interviewed Harvard professor Annette Gordon-Reed, who wrote a book in 1997 about Thomas Jefferson’s affair with one of his slaves, Sally Hemings, and the children born from that relationship.
He also spoke with Harvard historian Jill Lepore, who said that Jefferson took the idea from Enlightenment thinkers.“It’s fashionable, and rightfully so, to indict the limits of [Jefferson’s] vision,” Lepore said. “But in the 18th century, even the idea that all white men are created equal was a radical notion at the time.
Those men lived in a highly ranked culture, and a declaration of equality is throwing that away, or challenging that in a revolutionary manner.” Gordon-Reed said that Jefferson understood the contradiction of writing that “all men are created equal” while living on a slave plantation.
He envisioned a path to emancipation that would see Black slaves be freed and establish their own sovereign nation. “He didn’t think that Blacks would forgive whites for what they had done and he believed whites would never give up their prejudices, and so we would be in a state of conflict,” she said. “And we don’t want to hear this, but we have been in a state of conflict.” The segment goes on to examine how the phrase “all men are created equal” has been used to call out America’s hypocrisy all the way back to its earliest years.
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