Joe Otterson TV ReporterWith streamers making their biggest bets yet on content — and more of them about to include advertising options — Variety spoke with Dan Erlij and Allan Haldeman, UTA co-heads of TV literary, about the state of the television industry.In a rare joint interview, the two covered a wide range of topics, such as Netflix’s and HBO’s domination of the Emmys, and how AVOD streaming could bring “transparency we can find in terms of making deals.” The duo have more than 40 years at the agency between them, as well as a roster of A-list clients that includes “Succession” creator Jesse Armstrong, “The Good Fight” duo Robert and Michelle King, and “Atlanta” director and executive producer Hiro Murai. I want to use the Emmy nominations as a starting point.

In particular, the fact that HBO/HBO Max got 140 nominations and Netflix got 105. You’d have to add up the next seven platform totals to equal that 245 number.

Is it good or bad to have two major players dominating the awards landscape?Erlij: I would say I think you have to look at the shows that are being nominated first and foremost.

I think there’s some really incredibly cool and wonderful shows that are being recognized. And I think nobody would look at “Succession” even in a later year, or “Hacks,” or “White Lotus,” or “Maid” or any of the shows that were being nominated and say these shows don’t deserve it…But if your question is, would you like to see other places represented?

UTA Co-Heads of TV Lit Dan Erlij and Allan Haldeman Break Down State of Streaming, ‘Transparency’ of AVOD Future

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